[閒聊] TGA提名的巨大遺珠 闇龍紀元:紗障守護者
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看到Asmongold在導讀,於是我讀了一下
https://www.polygon.com/awards/481109/game-awards-2024-nominees-snubs-
surprises
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There was one big snub in the Game Awards nominations
Dragon Age: The Veilguard, a game engineered to succeed at The Game Awards,
did not
遊戲大賞提名的一個巨大遺珠:《闇龍紀元™: 紗障守護者》
一款專為遊戲大賞打造的遊戲,卻未能入圍。
遊戲大獎素來不以驚喜聞名,而2024年的提名名單再次印證了這一點——
一份相對全面的清單,其中大多數年度備受好評且深受喜愛的遊戲都獲得了一定關注。
然而,有一部作品幾乎完全缺席,令人相當震驚:《闇龍紀元™: 紗障守護者》。
遊戲大獎的投票評審團在幾個關鍵分野上冷落了 BioWare 的最新力作。
《紗障守護者》僅在「無障礙技術創新」中獲得一項提名,而這是由專門評審團決定的。
這令人吃驚;作為一部以敘事為主導的知名系列作品,製作精良且定位明確,
《闇龍紀元™: 紗障守護者》完全符合往年在遊戲大賞中表現優異的典型特質。
其前作《闇龍紀元:異端審判》曾在2014年遊戲大獎首屆頒獎中,榮獲年度遊戲。
當然,《紗障守護者》的評價褒貶不一——
其 Metacritic 評分定格在82分,讓它與年度遊戲的提名擦肩而過
(即使它的分數比入圍的《黑神話:悟空》高出一分)
更耐人尋味的是,
《紗障守護者》在最佳敘事和最佳遊戲表現這兩個 BioWare 遊戲通常佔優勢的類別中,
都未獲提名,而這些類別的評選通常不太與評分高低相關。
此外,它還未能進入最佳角色扮演遊戲的名單。
這一類別今年競爭尤為激烈:五個提名中有三部作品
(《暗喻幻想》、《FF7 重生》及《艾爾登法環:黃金樹幽影》)同時入圍年度遊戲,
而另外兩部(《龍族教義2》和《人中之龍8》)則是極具突破性的優秀作品。
即便如此,在這樣的行列中缺席,
對於 BioWare 或其發行商 EA 來說,恐怕不是經過十年開發後所期望看到的結果。
在這之外還有其他遭受冷落的情況嗎?
或許有一些次要的例子。
例如,廣受好評的《EA Sports College Football 25》
未能在體育/賽車遊戲類別中獲得提名令人意外,這或許是因為評審團的國際化構成所致。
而模擬/策略遊戲類別中,兩款擁有熱情粉絲群和高分評價的遊戲——
《Satisfactory》和《Tactical Breach Wizards》——未能入選,
讓位給了例如《神話時代》重製版這樣的遊戲。
但總體來說,這類別今年競爭同樣激烈。
我個人則希望能看到《薩爾達傳說:智慧的再現》因其出色的音樂表現而獲得提名。
一如往常,獨立遊戲類別競爭激烈,很難讓所有人滿意。
不過,15款遊戲在「最佳獨立遊戲」、「最佳首發獨立遊戲」及「影響力遊戲」
三個類別中獲得提名,若要找到真正令人不滿的缺席作品,
或許得深入挖掘像《Arco》或《1000xResist》這樣的作品。
其他的意外?
沒有人會想到《地獄之刃 2:賽奴雅的傳奇》獲得四項提名,
這款自5月發售以來幾乎淡出討論的遊戲能如此強勢。
DLC《黃金樹幽影》獲得四項提名,包括年度遊戲,這在歷史上尚無先例。
《黑神話:悟空》儘管評論表現相對疲軟,卻打入年度遊戲提名,這一突破也值得關注。
而由一人打造的卡牌遊戲《小丑牌 Balatro》獲得五項提名同樣令人印象深刻。
總而言之,
這份提名名單並未在外界引發多少波瀾——除了在 BioWare 的辦公室內部。
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3.8分啊
崩潰 XDDD
看起來他真的對黑悟空很不爽。還提好幾次
It's not exactly shocking a bad game gets "snubbed" at the awards.
一款爛遊戲被遊戲大賞頒獎典禮「冷落」,這並不令人意外
It's a good game, at times very good, but not a game of the year by any
stretch of the imagination.
這是不錯的遊戲,甚至有時候非常出彩,但無論如何他搆不到年度遊戲的邊。
Really, though? Surprising is if Kamala won. This is expected. Would it really
hurt to create likeable characters? Would it really hurt to leave us in our
delulu lands without bringing in delulu genders?
喔唷真的假的?如果賀錦麗贏了那才是真的意外。完全意料之中。
創作一些討人喜歡的腳色真的有這麼難嗎?
讓我們待在想像的世界裡少來指點江山,不要摻入那些離譜的性別觀點,真有那麼難?
Veilguard, much like Starfield, was so aggressively mid. I am playing it, it
isn't terrible. But it's hard to get a reaction to it that goes beyond meh.
紗障守護者基本上就滿像星空,就是那種中規中矩,毫不驚豔的遊戲。
我現在正在玩,沒有很差,但很難產生超過「還好」的反應。
下面這人回超長 XDD
Is it that surprising though? Let's all be honest here instead of crying. It's
a bad game. Nothing more, nothing less. The graphics are good, the gameplay
is fine even though it's a little bit lackluster. But that's it. That's
litterally all there is to the game. Now i know whoever wrote this already
wants to erase me from earth just for saying that, but imma keep going.
這真的讓人驚訝嗎?讓我們都誠實一點,而不是在那裡靠么。這只是一款爛遊戲,
沒什麼特別的,沒什麼好吹的。畫面還不錯,遊戲玩法也可以,雖然有點單調,
但就這樣。這就是遊戲的全部。現在我知道,寫這些的人一定想刪掉我推文,
只因為我說了這些話,但我還是要繼續說完。
1 - "Best Narrative" Please, who are you joking with this? Trying to ride the
tail of the previous game to sell this my little poney narrative is laughable.
The reason Inquisition won GOTY in the past is because, unlike veilguard, it'
s good. Like really good. Doesn't shy away from serious topics, actually
serious, repects the codes laid out by the 2 previous games aka being an
actual Dark fantasy game which veilguatd failed completely to respects. The
story feels like a fanfiction instead of an actual story. The writing is
disastrous at best, it's all over the place.
1 - 「最佳敘事」請問你在開什麼美國玩笑?
試圖借用前作的名聲,來銷售這種「我的幼稚童話」真可笑。
為什麼《異端審判》在過去能獲得年度遊戲獎呢?因為它很棒,真的很棒。
它不回避嚴肅的話題,真的很嚴肅,並且遵循了前兩作所設下的規則,
也就是一款真正的黑暗奇幻遊戲,而《紗障守護者》完全未能尊重這些規則。
故事更像是同人小說,而不是一個真實的故事。
過去最仰仗的寫作功力這次也只能說是災難,簡直亂七八糟。
2 - "Best RPG" Again, trying to ride the tail of the previous dragon age games
is not gonna do you any justice. Veilguard was supposed to be an RPG. But in
what way is it an RPG? In name only, cause looking at it deeper, it is not one
. No friction whatsoever in the team, everything, every problems is smoothed
out and pushed under the rug. No one is in conflict, your character, Rook, is
forced in every instance into an illusion of a choice which in the end is
always "good". The truthis, you don't have a say in anything. An RPG gives you
the choice of what you want to do with your character. The previous games
allowed it to the extreme. Burn down a village? Cool do that. Sell your
companions to slavery? Ok do that. Fight with your companions over your belief
and theirs? Yes go on. Betray someone? Yes. And so on. While it is bad and
wrong to do so, that is the essence of an RPG. Veilguard has none of those
kind of freedom. NONE. You are forced to always be the good, noble hero that
understands everyone and play the goody two shoes. That is not an RPG.
2 - 「最佳RPG」再次強調,假借前作《闇龍紀元》的名號狐假虎威,
並不會給你帶來任何公正的評價。
《紗障守護者》本應該是一款RPG,但它在哪方面算是RPG呢?
它只是在名字上是RPG,深入剖析,它根本就不是。
團隊間完全沒有摩擦,
每一個問題都被輕描淡寫地掩蓋掉。沒有人處於價值觀衝突當中,
你的角色Rook,每次都被迫做出一個看似抉擇,實際上總是「正義」的選擇。
事實上,你對任何事都沒有發言權。
一款RPG會給你選擇權,讓你決定怎麼發展你的角色。
前作甚至讓你做出最兩極的選擇:
燒毀一個村莊?當然可以。
把你的同伴賣為奴隸?好吧,可以。
和你的同伴因為信念不合而爭吵?可以。
背叛某人?當然可以。
等等。雖然這些選擇是錯誤的,但是這正是角色扮演的精髓。
《紗障守護者》完全沒有這樣的自由。完全沒有。
你永遠被迫扮演一個善良、崇高的英雄,理解每個人,總是做好事。這不是角色扮演。
3 - "One point above wukong" Only because "some people" review bombed the game
at launch and mislead everyone. Who was it that gave it a 9/10, a 8/10, a 10/
10 at launch, preaching it as a godsend game that will revolutionize gaming
and that todays are turning on the game, calling it out like everyone else?
Unlike Wukong, which is just a great game, period. Veilguard was always a bad
came. It never was great. But lies and agendas made it seem like it was. And
now that's it's all crashing down, you all "journalist" are crying cause your
agendas and propagandas got blocked and ignored
3 - 「比《黑神話:悟空》高一分」
只是因為「某些人」在遊戲發售時進行了大洗評價,誤導了大家。
是誰在遊戲發售時給它打9/10、8/10、10/10,宣稱這是一款會顛覆遊戲史的神作,
結果今天裝沒事反過來批評這款遊戲,像其他人一樣指出它明顯的缺陷?
與《黑悟空》不同,後者是一款真正的好遊戲。
《紗障守護者》一直都是一款糟糕的遊戲,從來都不曾卓越過。
但謊言和某些議程讓它看起來像是一款好遊戲。
現在一切偽裝崩潰了,這些所謂的「記者們」開始哭訴,
因為他們的議程宣傳遭到了阻擋和忽視。
4 - It's just not immersive. The setting is medieval. A dark fantasy. A gritty
, gory, unfair world where a wrong call is the equivalent to a blade through
the guts. In where does any of the modern, 21st century, terms fit in all that
? Like seriously? Characters actually saying "non-binary"? That breaks the
immersion for lord sake! Don't get me wrong, idgaf if a character is non-
binary or not. But using modern terms in a fantasy setting is just a big no.
It does not belong there. Have you ever heard of any people from medieval time
address anyone as they/them? Talk about gender politics? Trauma dump anyone
over their identity crisis? No. Has any of the previous dragon age did that?
No! Depsite having those type of characters, none of the previous games put
focus on it becausd there was no need. It doesn't belong in the setting. And
seriously? Having 2 entire pages of gender identity IN-GAME marked as "lore"?
Why? That doesn't concern us gamers, that's yall's politic wars, we want none
of that bs.
4 - 它根本不具沉浸感。
背景設定是中世紀,一個黑暗奇幻的世界。
這是個殘酷、血腥、不公平的世界,錯誤的決定相當於一刀致命。
在這樣的背景下,21世紀的現代詞彙怎麼會大行其道?認真的嗎?
角色居然會說「非二元性別」? 這樣會打破沉浸感好嗎!
別誤會,我不在乎角色是不是非二元性別。
但在奇幻背景下使用現代術語真的是大錯特錯。它不應該出現。
你有聽過中世紀的人稱呼某人為「they/them」嗎?
談論性別政治?因身份危機而給人灌輸創傷嗎? 沒有。
之前的《闇龍紀元》有這樣做過嗎? 沒有!
即便有這類角色,前作也沒有強調這些問題,因為沒必要。這不屬於這背景的設定。
更糟的是?遊戲內有兩整頁的性別認同內容被標註為「背景故事」?
為什麼?這不關我們玩家的事,這是你們的政治戰爭,我們不需要這些。
5 - It's a disaster. Like really. Doesn't respect any of the previous games
whatsoever. The lore is all over the place. The previous characters that are
coming back are just husks of themselves, like an easy example is Morrighan.
You don't sit there and tell me that's the Morrighan from Origins and
Inquisition. That is someone posing as her, not her. Same with Varric, Harding
, Solas,... Just husk of themselves, distorded by the censorship and the DEI.
And want me to go off on the Qunaris? The battle hardened, no fucks-given,
highly xenophobic race that somehow got hit by the disneyfying laser. Now they
don't even have that menacing air around them anymore. They look as pinky and
rainbowy as anyone else. That was the race that started a goddamn war cause
they didn't like mages. Now they fight over gender identity between themselves
. Wtf?
5 - 這遊戲就是一場災難。真的。
完全不尊重前作。背景故事亂七八糟。
回歸的角色只剩下皮,比如Morrigan。
你不能告訴我,這就是《序章》和《異端審判》中的Morrigan。
這是個假冒的她,不是真的。
Varric、Harding、Solas……同樣如此。只是被審查和多元平權洗腦後的皮。
還需要我再提Qunaris嗎?
這些訓練有素、無所畏懼、極端排外的種族,居然也被「迪士尼化」了。
他們再也沒有那種威脅感,現在看起來就像任何其他染上粉紅色彩與彩虹裝飾的東西。
他們曾是那個因為討厭法師而引發戰爭的種族,現在他們竟然在爭論性別認同。
什麼狗屁?
As i said, mentionning the previous titles and trying to use them to sell your
opinion isn't giving you any credibility whatsoever. It just goes to show how
little you know about the frnachise, and instead are more focused on whining
about why this trash of game didn't make it into the GOTY pool so that you and
your journalists friends can feel good about yourself. Please give it a rest,
politics has no place in games, regardless of what it is. Games are made for
fun, not for you people to push your agendas into and shove your distorted
view of the world down our throats. Thank you, have a good day
我再重申,提及前作並試圖用它們來支持你的觀點,並不會讓你更有公信力。
這只會顯示出你對這個系列了解有多淺,
而你更關心的是,抱怨為什麼這款爛遊戲沒能進入年度遊戲的候選名單,
讓你和你那些記者朋友自我感覺良好。
請放過闇龍紀元,政治不應該進入遊戲,無論它是什麼觀點。
遊戲是為了娛樂,而不是為了讓你們推動你們的議程,強加你們對世界的扭曲看法。
謝謝你,祝你有美好的一天
火力全開 XDDD
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